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serynI got an answer back from Yahoo Mail. They have no intention of supporting Opera and told me to start using a supported browser instead. It was a form letter, because they obviously didn't read that I was already using those browsers, just not for their stuff.
I'm going to run some sort of backups to get my mail from there and I've already ported one service to using gmail. (I still have an ffn account, I use it a lot actually since if you can login, they will tell you when something updates. And now that I can punt whole stories to my Kindle, I don't avoid reading things there anymore because it stopped being hella inconvenient.)
I'm probably going to move my DW email of record to gmail too.
I tested it with the "masquerade as Firefox" setting turned on and it still fails with my browser. So in a month when they turn off the old Ymail, I'd be fucked. Best to move now.
I'm unlikely to stop using Opera. They innovate just about everything in the browser arena. Tabbed browsing, site specific settings, keyboard controlled text resizing, keyboard controls in general (though those were adopted a LONG time ago). Opera's on-board ad blocking is inferior, I had to get a new extension for that, (Extensions were a Firefox thing... but community supported innovations were still Opera first) but they were the first browser to have any ad blocking built in. And most everyone I talk to forgets what ad blocking in Firefox did in version 1.2. It would kill your browser. There weren't automatic list updates, you had to go grab the update from an unsupported and sleazy looking domain in some fourth world country known for poisoned torrents and piracy, but the ad blocking was so kludged that it fought with the fundamentals of the browser... I had to wipe and re-install TWICE when the ad block add-on was updated in early Firefox. And when Firefox updated, the extension writers just put their shit back up and expected the users to test it, so it would destroy a new install in seconds because none of the extension writers bothered with quality work. Opera, has most of the things you'd want from extensions built in already, and they've been tested by people who are paid to do so. I won't say it's a perfect product but I like most of their innovations and I don't like how other people copy them and say, "Look what we invented." My favorite feature though, is the setting which says what to do with a tab when clicking on a bookmark or favico, so I have mine set to always create a new tab. If I want the old thing gone, I can close it myself. There is no setting to do that in any other browser.... you have to open a clean tab and then use the bookmarks because it's not possible to avoid obliterating what you're currently doing just by holding down control-shift or whatever while clicking.
I did "up"grade my (runs on Firefox) in-person life's Ymail account to the new Beta mail and some of the stuff works better but there weren't any improvements I'm likely to use. I don't WANT it to try to share everything I email to anyone with my Facebook account. Duh.
If I wanted it to be public, I'd blog about it. If I want it to be private (ish) I email it. So don't be telling me you're going to share everything willynilly if you want me to respect this as an improvement.
It makes me incredibly thankful I don't have a Facebook account. If I ever get a FB account, I'd have to isolate it with its own email account on a computer that wasn't used for anything else. Because so many things have glommed onto FB that it jellyfish tentacles its way into even things you thought were isolated. The only way it's feasibly safe to have an account with them is if it's not even on the same machine as your browser cookies to the rest of your life. FB does insane things like tell everyone every Netflix movie you borrow. I'd be happy to create a filter here for people who wanted to know what movies I've borrowed, but I would update my DW manually--- because I might watch weird indy films where dwarves have sex with pregnant teenagers (it wasn't pornographic, they didn't show that part, just implied it visually and talked about it afterward. For those of you who were wondering, it's one of my favorite movies ever, The Station Agent.) but I suspect there are a lot of times I wouldn't want that generally known by people who might employ me or whatever.
I'm going to run some sort of backups to get my mail from there and I've already ported one service to using gmail. (I still have an ffn account, I use it a lot actually since if you can login, they will tell you when something updates. And now that I can punt whole stories to my Kindle, I don't avoid reading things there anymore because it stopped being hella inconvenient.)
I'm probably going to move my DW email of record to gmail too.
I tested it with the "masquerade as Firefox" setting turned on and it still fails with my browser. So in a month when they turn off the old Ymail, I'd be fucked. Best to move now.
I'm unlikely to stop using Opera. They innovate just about everything in the browser arena. Tabbed browsing, site specific settings, keyboard controlled text resizing, keyboard controls in general (though those were adopted a LONG time ago). Opera's on-board ad blocking is inferior, I had to get a new extension for that, (Extensions were a Firefox thing... but community supported innovations were still Opera first) but they were the first browser to have any ad blocking built in. And most everyone I talk to forgets what ad blocking in Firefox did in version 1.2. It would kill your browser. There weren't automatic list updates, you had to go grab the update from an unsupported and sleazy looking domain in some fourth world country known for poisoned torrents and piracy, but the ad blocking was so kludged that it fought with the fundamentals of the browser... I had to wipe and re-install TWICE when the ad block add-on was updated in early Firefox. And when Firefox updated, the extension writers just put their shit back up and expected the users to test it, so it would destroy a new install in seconds because none of the extension writers bothered with quality work. Opera, has most of the things you'd want from extensions built in already, and they've been tested by people who are paid to do so. I won't say it's a perfect product but I like most of their innovations and I don't like how other people copy them and say, "Look what we invented." My favorite feature though, is the setting which says what to do with a tab when clicking on a bookmark or favico, so I have mine set to always create a new tab. If I want the old thing gone, I can close it myself. There is no setting to do that in any other browser.... you have to open a clean tab and then use the bookmarks because it's not possible to avoid obliterating what you're currently doing just by holding down control-shift or whatever while clicking.
I did "up"grade my (runs on Firefox) in-person life's Ymail account to the new Beta mail and some of the stuff works better but there weren't any improvements I'm likely to use. I don't WANT it to try to share everything I email to anyone with my Facebook account. Duh.
If I wanted it to be public, I'd blog about it. If I want it to be private (ish) I email it. So don't be telling me you're going to share everything willynilly if you want me to respect this as an improvement.
It makes me incredibly thankful I don't have a Facebook account. If I ever get a FB account, I'd have to isolate it with its own email account on a computer that wasn't used for anything else. Because so many things have glommed onto FB that it jellyfish tentacles its way into even things you thought were isolated. The only way it's feasibly safe to have an account with them is if it's not even on the same machine as your browser cookies to the rest of your life. FB does insane things like tell everyone every Netflix movie you borrow. I'd be happy to create a filter here for people who wanted to know what movies I've borrowed, but I would update my DW manually--- because I might watch weird indy films where dwarves have sex with pregnant teenagers (it wasn't pornographic, they didn't show that part, just implied it visually and talked about it afterward. For those of you who were wondering, it's one of my favorite movies ever, The Station Agent.) but I suspect there are a lot of times I wouldn't want that generally known by people who might employ me or whatever.
